Robotics Q&A with UC Berkeley’s Ken Goldberg

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Half 1: CMU’s Matthew Johnson-Roberson
Half 2: Toyota Research Institute’s Max Bajracharya and Russ Tedrake
Half 3: Meta’s Dhruv Batra
Half 4: Boston Dynamics’ Aaron Saunders

Ken Goldberg is a professor and the William S. Floyd Jr. Distinguished Chair in Engineering at UC Berkeley, a co-founder and chief scientist at robotics parcel sorting startup Ambidextrous and a fellow at IEEE. 

What function(s) will generative AI play in the way forward for robotics?

Though the rumblings began a bit earlier, 2023 might be remembered because the 12 months when generative AI remodeled Robotics. Giant language fashions like ChatGPT can permit robots and people to speak in pure language. Phrases advanced over time to signify helpful ideas from “chair” to “chocolate” to “charisma.” Roboticists additionally found that giant Imaginative and prescient-Language-Motion fashions will be educated to facilitate robotic notion and to manage the motions of robotic legs and arms. Coaching requires huge quantities of knowledge so labs world wide at the moment are collaborating to share knowledge. Outcomes are pouring in and though there are nonetheless open questions on generalization, the influence might be profound.

One other thrilling matter is “Multi-Modal fashions” in two senses of multi-modal:

  • Multi-Modal in combining completely different enter modes, e.g. Imaginative and prescient and Language. That is now being prolonged to incorporate Tactile and Depth sensing, and Robotic Actions.
  • Multi-Modal by way of permitting completely different actions in response to the identical enter state. That is surprisingly widespread in robotics; for instance there are numerous methods to know an object. Commonplace deep fashions will “common” these grasp actions which may produce very poor grasps.  One very thrilling strategy to protect multi-modal actions is Diffusion Insurance policies, developed by Shuran Track, now at Stanford.

What are your ideas on the humanoid kind issue?

I’ve all the time been skeptical about humanoids and legged robots, as they are often overly sensational and inefficient, however I’m reconsidering after seeing the most recent humanoids and quadrupeds from Boston Dynamics, Agility and Unitree. Tesla has the engineering expertise to develop low-cost motors and gearing techniques at scale. Legged robots have many benefits over wheels in houses and factories to traverse steps, particles and rugs. Bimanual (two-armed) robots are important for a lot of duties, however I nonetheless imagine that easy grippers will proceed to be extra dependable and cost-effective than five-fingered robotic arms.

Following manufacturing and warehouses, what’s the subsequent main class for robotics?

After the latest union wage settlements, I believe we’ll see many extra robots in manufacturing and warehouses than we now have as we speak. Current progress in self-driving taxis has been spectacular, particularly in San Francisco the place driving circumstances are extra complicated than Phoenix. However I’m not satisfied that they are often cost-effective. For robot-assisted surgical procedure, researchers are exploring “Augmented Dexterity” — the place robots can improve surgical expertise by performing low-level subtasks comparable to suturing.

How far out are true general-purpose robots?

I don’t anticipate to see true AGI and general-purpose robots within the close to future. Not a single roboticist I do know worries about robots stealing jobs or turning into our overlords.

Will house robots (past vacuums) take off within the subsequent decade?

I predict that inside the subsequent decade we may have reasonably priced house robots that may declutter — decide up issues like garments, toys and trash from the ground and place them into acceptable bins. Like as we speak’s vacuum cleaners, these robots will sometimes make errors, however the advantages for folks and senior residents will outweigh the dangers.

 What necessary robotics story/pattern isn’t getting sufficient protection?

Robotic movement planning. This is without doubt one of the oldest topics in robotics — easy methods to management the motor joints to maneuver the robotic software and keep away from obstacles. Many suppose this downside has been solved, however it hasn’t.  

Robotic “singularities” are a elementary downside for all robotic arms; they’re very completely different from Kurzweil’s hypothetical time limit when AI surpasses people. Robotic singularities are factors in house the place a robotic stops unexpectedly and have to be manually reset by a human operator. Singularities come up from the maths wanted to transform desired straight-line movement of the gripper into the corresponding motions for every of the six robotic joint motors. At sure factors in house, this conversion turns into unstable (just like a divide-by-zero error), and the robotic must be reset.

For repetitive robotic motions, singularities will be prevented by tedious handbook fine-tuning of repetitive robotic motions to regulate them such that they by no means encounter singularities. As soon as such motions are decided, they’re repeated over and over. However for the rising technology of functions the place robotic motions will not be repetitive, together with palletizing, bin-picking, order success and package deal sorting, singularities are widespread. They’re a widely known and elementary downside as they disrupt robotic operations at unpredictable occasions (typically a number of occasions per hour). I co-founded a brand new startup, Jacobi Robotics, that implements environment friendly algorithms which are *assured* to keep away from singularities. This will considerably enhance reliability and productiveness for all robots.  

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